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Old 09-06-2002, 11:53 AM   #1
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Ok , I try to hold my tongue, But I must state a few things on my mind. First, I guess public opinion holds that "men" mostly play female characters, not RL females. That is fine, I dont have a problem with that. Play whatever you want. Yet, something bugs me a little bit. My husband and I play EQ together. He told me about the new skins i can download....yipeee how excited i got. I go to download something for my spell book, and I notice that more than half of the women are close to naked. For SOME of us RL female players, the last thing we want to look at when we sit to memorize a spell, is a womans tits and half naked body. Now, if i knew how, i would make my own and post it, but i am not that advanced in computers. I would just like for some of you boys making the "spell book pictures" to make something that girls like me can stand looking at. In real life, we dont walk around half naked, yet it seems in a lot of video, PC games we do. I supose it is because the men making the games assume mostly men will be playing the game. For all of you men who like looking at the naked chics , fine, i am nOT on your case, but I would like to see a few politically correct spell skins for us paladins who do wear clothes............
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Old 09-06-2002, 12:06 PM   #2
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Well, to be FAIR.... the spell books I think your speaking of from here are created and submitted by a RL female..

there are already several dozen books availble throught different sites, I would suggest finding some of t.kings books, they have no real background image, but they look fabulous.. Linked Here he is one of our featured artist, and will be adding his collection to the FEATURED ARTIST category in the coming days (once we tell him the bugs are mostly gone heheheh)

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Old 09-09-2002, 02:06 PM   #3
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LOL... um.. well i am a RL female and how bout some sexy men for the spell book hey.. i like looking at men... not chicks.. ewwww
Although some consider my avtar i really like to use.. its of a blonde and a wolf.. i described to a girl in my guild that i had seen plenty of women with wolfs with dark hair but since i am rl blonde and my druid is blonde would like to find one that would suit my char. and i truely think it does.

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Old 09-09-2002, 03:43 PM   #4
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Well, verant's official spellbook doesn't have ladies in the nudd on it..at least not as far as i've seen (i'm gonna look now!). It really comes down to your own decision. No one is forcing you to use the spellbooks that you don't like, and there are plenty of alternatives.

For example, t.king (who i'll point out for the umpteenth time has the same name as me in real life) has created 17-odd wonderful spell books that are completely bereft of all nekkidness--well, one might have a little bit, but it's all small and cherub/farie-like. And, if by chance you've been living under a UI-Proof rock for the last several months and *haven't* seen T. King's work, go here now, or the beatings will resume: http://pub37.ezboard.com/fmaximus94...opicID=74.topic

And remember, those skinners who have made ui's or spellbooks with...questionably low attire levels...have for the most part used previously made art, and in general, fantasy art is done by fantasy artists--and fantasy artists are dirty! tee. hee.

I'm done. Go put some clothes on.
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Old 09-10-2002, 12:33 PM   #5
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Even the great fantasy artist Julie Bell paints most the fantasy females in her pictures with revealing, sexy, or "impossible" clothing.

It's one of those things that becomes implied when you see the word "fantasy"

Not all women have DD's or bigger, not all women have that tiny of waists, and not all women prefer to run about scantily clad, and they aren't all athletically built/toned.

The same goes for men too, to be completely fair. Not all men run about with arms that make bobdy builders look average. Nor do they often wear such odd garments, are covered in tatoos, or stand well over 6 feet tall.

I'm not saying you're wrong for not wanting to see that kind of imagery, so don't think that. You are entitled to your opinions and you don't have to look at anything you don't like. There are plenty of options out here with no females in the graphics.

What I am saying, however, is that going into something of a fantasy genre and expecting NOT to find anything like what you complain about. It's a part of the fantasy genre as much as dragons and spellcasting is. Mainly, because it's fantasy.

It could, afterall, be worse. We could be skipping the fantasy artwork, and just get live models...which tends to get even worse. ;p

I would also like to point out that many female fantasy authors depict their female characters in such a manner as well. In addition, there are a lot of women that work in the video game industry. I can think of a few instances where they themselves have worked on, designed, or maybe even produced a game with females that are larger than life and not nearly as clothed.

You're not wrong to not like it, just don't condemn us for it, and try to find another graphic or artist who doesn't use such imagery.
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Old 09-10-2002, 04:47 PM   #6
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*snorts* And the title got my hopes up and all....
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:22 PM   #7
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For SOME of us RL female players, the last thing we want to look at when we sit to memorize a spell, is a womans tits and half naked body.


I tend to agree with half of that. I don't care for most of the naked/half naked woman pictures that are out there. But I do like things done by Boris, Royo and Toxic Angel even when more then half of them are mostly unclothed. I would also like to point out that drawing males and making them look good is EXTREAMLY hard. For some reason men are just not drawable, photogenic sure.. but drawing is a pain.

ANYWAY....

For a spell book I can do that easy if I had some sort of picture to put in it's place.
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Old 09-10-2002, 06:51 PM   #8
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Well, isnt beauty in the eye of the beholder? yes and i have seen some of the art on the books that i myself use as a avatar on one guild that i stop in and say hi to.. she's the one naked on the dragon. lol... i wish my avtar i use the most would fit here kinda big for the reqiured space but its a protralal of how i see my druid.. she's woman and can be a wolf. so... if i can down size it some more .. art has always been in debate for as long as i can remember.... and men can be made to look nice to the eye.
i have a brave warrior mag on my fridge.. so there.. and i would really like to make one but have no clue how to put my idea in to as you talented ppl have.. and is there none that can be used on a smaller resoution..??? my frame right would be inpossible to use the size of what the down loads say u need it on..
seems like if it could all be made skinner .. to be able to size it down .. could be maybe more used for us that cant do the largest or next to largest resoution.. just a thought.. like i said
i wouldnt know how to make mods like that..
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Old 09-10-2002, 07:16 PM   #9
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Here's an idea: Someone find examples of these so-called "naked women" in the UI, and post pictures here, and then we'll have a poll to see which is the most offensive, or whether they are at all! Post as many as you want. I'm sure that the more we find, the more comprehensive our decision will be.

Alright, now that i've managed to say that with a straight face...
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Old 09-10-2002, 07:20 PM   #10
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Well.. naked women or not.. there should be enough mods out there to suit any taste.. if not, just post a request in the request section of this board, and I am sure some of the talented skinners/programmers here will be delighted to take on the challenge.
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Old 09-19-2002, 08:23 AM   #11
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I must be a wiedo then cause I LOVE Luis Royo Images even if the women are half naked and even naked completely.

Wanna know where they are . They are here

http://www.thedarkone.com/royo/main.html


There are other sites with better scans but this is general one


Also .. I attached one here . Awesome artist.
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Old 09-19-2002, 09:06 AM   #12
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Royo rocks

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Old 09-23-2002, 10:54 PM   #13
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He is a verry good artist i must say. Guess he should make spellbooks eh??
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:04 AM   #14
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Hense why I am so eager to get my hands on some kind of tutorial of how to get what i want into my UI lol .
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Old 09-25-2002, 06:40 AM   #15
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Ok - heres something I've observed but never commented on before, but this seems the perfect spot.

The cover graphic for the Ruins of Kunark box was touched up to show FV's nipples.
No other views of that same graphic either in-game or on the manual show that touch-up.
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