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Roger Sewell 12-02-2003 03:24 PM

Eqim
 
This isn't exactly a UI thing, but I thought I would pass along some information to you kind folks over here at EQInterface.

We got EQIM up to speed yesterday so that it shows all the servers now. You will see Venril Sathir, Kael Drakkal, Sebilis, Stromm, and Maelin Starpyre. This is still unsupported software, but I hope you enjoy the changes we've made. You don't need to change anything, just run EQIM and it will automagically download a new Serverinfo.xml file. If you had modified your Serverinfo.xml file manually and added /nopatch to the end of your shortcut, you will need to remove that to get the newest file.

Cheers!

Kudane 12-02-2003 03:50 PM

I will say it for everyone Roger

You Rock!!!

thanks for the info..

orion711 12-02-2003 05:26 PM

This may be a mute point but I haven't used EQIM in along time because I am on Maelin and when i saw this I went to Everquest live to download it but unfortunatly I couldn't seem to find a link to it anywhere. Long story short, here is the link to the download for anyone who may need it:

http://eqlive.station.sony.com/eqim.jsp

Qinadwen 12-02-2003 08:09 PM

Woohooo - thanks Roger, you are the man ... now all we need is for EQIM to be able to connect to the ingame guildchat :) Although I know - EQIM in not currently supported by SOE.

Great work Roger - glad to see you are on our side :D

Regards
Qinadwen Loreseeker, VS

Dravenlee 12-02-2003 08:48 PM

I can't seem to get EQIM to for anything....I always am get it to say that friends are not online when I know that they are....any recommendations? Have tried EQIM on 2 different computers and always the same results...I remember hearing something a while back that friends have to type /invisable or something to the effect....can anyone shed any light on this problem? Thanks for all help.

Roger Sewell 12-02-2003 09:31 PM

Heya Zone, at this time, EQIM cannot connect to the guild chat because EQIM is connecting to the Channel Server, and not the World Server, so basically it recognises your character, but not guild affiliations. So if you want to talk to your guild, create a "Guild Channel" and have your entire guild join it. Passwording it would be a good idea as well.

If you an unfamiliar with how to do so, here is the format.

/join ChannelName:Password

e.g.

/join EQinterface:8675309


Thank you to Orion for the link, we'll be altering the web page shortly to make it easier to find/download.

Dolby 12-02-2003 09:56 PM

Ugghh thanks Roger now I got that darn song stuck in my head.

Jenny, I got your number.
I need to make you mine.
Jenny, don't change your number,
8 6 7 5 3 0 9
8 6 7 5 3 0 9
8 6 7 5 3 0 9 ....

Cairenn 12-03-2003 12:07 AM

*Laughs at Dolby*

For whatever reason, EQIM just plain stopped working for me a while back. I've no idea why. One day it worked, the next day it didn't, and I haven't been able to get it working since. Even tried re-installing it, no joy. Blah.

guice 12-03-2003 03:43 AM

Unsupported Software? I guess that means that SOE has truely stopped development of it? :(

It's a nice tool. I do agree it shouldn't cost 5.95$/mnth just to use it. It seems that once that was announced it would be free, EQIM production went to a grinding hault.

Dolby 12-03-2003 04:13 AM

Its always been unsupported.

Its not $5.95 a month. They toyed with the idea for chargeing but they made a BIG announcement awhile back saying it would be free and it has been ever since. :)

guice 12-03-2003 06:48 AM

I remember the release. They published EQIM aa "Beta" and said it's free for now. They are discussing the price for it and levying towards 5.95$. After a bit of protest about the idea that this utility would cost a monthly fee, SOE made an announcement that it will be free.

Kunis Marfury 12-04-2003 05:47 AM

question to the mass :)

i play on the localized server Sébilis (french)

EQim works great but i can't get to see my char names correctly.
instead of Kunis, in the selection and chat windows, i (and the people) just see something like 4b756e6973
and, also, we can't add buddy, nor tell them, if they have an accent on their name (such as Hérisson :p)


i know that EQim's no longer supported but pleeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase, just patch it. or push UBIsoft to patch it for you :p

SannaSK 12-07-2003 04:59 PM

oh, thank you so much that someone still thinks about this. I use the IM all the time, it's such a great thing. It loooves to crash when I log in to certain characters, not sure why. /shrug. And last I checked, it thinks that the Tarew Marr server is 'tarew.name', not the correct 'marr.name.' But we got a channel going for the people there, so it's not that much of an issue now.


I am glad the IM is free; we already pay for the game. And the IM is sooooooooo unbelievably useful. I cannot tell you how happy I am that someone still pays attention. Thank you thank you thank you.

-- Sanna

mortis42 12-07-2003 05:25 PM

EQIM and Trillian
 
I'd like to see a EQIM plugin for Trillian Pro.
I stopped using it because it created to many windows for my liking to use. If it was integrated into Trillian that would be cool.

Utaeladil 12-15-2003 10:34 PM

Wow
 
I didn't expect to see an EQIM thread but am glad to do so. Below is a copy of an email I sent to several of the EQ email addresses, where they basically said to go stuff myself (politely) because EQIM was no longer supported. If ANY of you have the ability to do ANYTHING with the serverinfo.xml file or could at least fix the mentioned bug with creating new friends on my server placing an incorrect tag, that would be great!

Also, since it IS no longer supported, why not talk to the big guys and have them release the source code or whatever so that 3rd party people can pick up where you left off... I'd love to see something more useful come of this app :)

Original Message Follows:
------------------------
I would like to know the name and/or email of the person who supports
EQIM. There are several really annoying problems that just aren't being
addressed. The biggest issue that I have involved the Tarew Marr
server.



The problem with TM server was that, when EQIM was first released, the
serverinfo.xml contained the tag "tarew" for Tarew Marr. It would only
report that TM was down. It turns out that the tag needed to be changed
to "marr" instead...and thanks to a nice and knowledgable guide I was
able to change this in the serverinfo.xml and launch it with a /nopatch
command to keep it from downloading the patch. It worked great... for
a long time... then one day I started receiving SERVER DOWN messages
again for my server. So I double checked the serverinfo.xml file and it
was still fine...so I figured what the heck...and I ran the eqim.exe
without any commandline options and it downloaded the serverinfo.xml
file again (once more with the TAREW tag) only this time it now shows my
characters and I can logon and communicate with anyone who was in my
friends list. The friends, however, were added as "marr.friend" instead
of "tarew.friend" and work fine. If I try to add new friends via EQIM,
it adds them as "tarew.friend" which does not work. So now, what I have
to do to add new friends, is manually edit the xml file containing the
friends I wish to add and enter the XML compatable code for their
marr.friend name for it to work... it is a complete annoyance and
almost enough to make me stop wanting to use it, though it is great to
see who is online real quick without needing to logon.



I don't care if you name the server tag "tarew" like they are now, or
"marr" to match the file naming conventions of the logfile, friends
list, UI files, etc (which to me makes much more sense - migrate it all
over to "marr") but whatever you do, I would at LEAST like to be able to
add friends without editing the .xml file... this is something that
most people would not have the knowledge nor patience to figure out or
do. Almost everyone I know on TM does not use it because it has not
worked for us for so very long.



Every single new person downloading EQIM for use with the TM server will
just think that it constantly reports their friends as offline
incorrectly, (because new friends they add are tarew.friend instead of
marr.friend) so just imagine how many people aren't going to use it.



I know EQIM has been deemed free, and therefore you may not consider it
important enough to do anything about, or maybe you just don't have
anyone knowledgeable enough to test it with you...but I consider EQIM to
be valuable enough to at least fix the minor problems with the Tarew
Marr server...unless you are just biased toward us :-)



I have also noticed some undocumented features within the xml file (like
the ability to add a friend to a certain section, manually, and it
allows you to access those friends from any name on that server you have
created... I was wondering if there were a more detailed set of docs
with it anywhere.



The other major problem I have with it (am running on XP pro btw) is
that once in a while it will crash and when I re-open it, it has lost
all of my contact info. It is so bad that I keep a copy of the xml file
containing my friends list and copy it over when it crashes...with the
extreme hassle of adding new users, it's a big pain...



Anyway I would like someone to contact me as soon as possible to answer
any/all of these questions.



Thanks,

Angahran 12-16-2003 04:04 AM

For Mortis42
 
To Mortis42.
There is, take a look here :
TEQIM

Although it is technically against the EULA :(

ArcLite 12-16-2003 04:32 AM

Re: EQIM and Trillian
 
Quote:
Originally posted by mortis42
I'd like to see a EQIM plugin for Trillian Pro.
I stopped using it because it created to many windows for my liking to use. If it was integrated into Trillian that would be cool.



SURPRISE!

ArcLite 12-16-2003 04:33 AM

Wow we posted that almost at the same time. lol

You win though Angahran. :(

Angahran 12-17-2003 05:42 AM

*grin*
 
Thats the way I like it :P

Would be nice to get a response from SoE saying they won't ban you for using this, especially since they arn't supporting EQIM anymore.

Togras 12-17-2003 06:41 AM

I don't seem the harm. It isn't directly changing your game experience (i.e. it isn't a hack), so why not?

mortis42 12-24-2003 03:52 PM

TEQIM
 
You know I never made it back to this thread, and didn't see your replies about TEQIM.

I just happened upon it today, and decided to come back and look if anyone had posted about it.

I think that SOE will never allow this as long as they require you to click the I accept to log into EQIM, unless TEQIM can incorporate this into the login for the plugin.

I have too many years invested into EQ to risk my account being banned just for this convienance.

I hope that something can be resovlved between the TEQIM developers and SOE.

Thanks for the info.

Athalakos 06-28-2004 06:59 PM

EQIM problem of my own
 
I don't know what the deal is, but I can't even get my EQIM to log in. All other Station software including the website sees my login just fine, but then when I try to use EQIM it tells me "invalid login"...is there any light someone can shed on this? Sony has so far been VERY unhelpful, and I think it's an account problem on their end, not a problem with EQIM. They just won't get off their money stacked arses and do anything about it because it's not officially supported. Never mind that a paying customer is having a problem with a feature they offer...

Anatis 07-06-2004 07:21 AM

I use Teqim daily on Trillian Pro, absolutely no problem.
And Sony abandoned EQIM so don't be surprised if you get no help from there.

BTW it could be that you hit the server when it was congested. Sometimes happens to me.

Qinadwen 07-06-2004 12:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anatis
I use Teqim daily on Trillian Pro.


If you get caught using that, they might react to it .... in a not so good way :(
It violates SoE's TOS.

Kudane 07-06-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qinadwen
If you get caught using that, they might react to it .... in a not so good way :(
It violates SoE's TOS.


Actually it doesnt, the trillian plugin seems to fall into a grey area. Since EQIM is no longer supported, but the coding is out there for it, it seems that SOE may treat this as one of those grey things.

I use the EQIM pluggin for trillian, and I have mentioned that I use it to SOE people (even sent the link the file to one person) and so far none of them have warned me off using it.

Soooo while its still "use at your own risk" I know SOE isnt actively hunting EQIM users (hehehe)..

/bow

Kaliaila 07-14-2004 12:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Athalakos
I don't know what the deal is, but I can't even get my EQIM to log in. All other Station software including the website sees my login just fine, but then when I try to use EQIM it tells me "invalid login"...is there any light someone can shed on this? Sony has so far been VERY unhelpful, and I think it's an account problem on their end, not a problem with EQIM. They just won't get off their money stacked arses and do anything about it because it's not officially supported. Never mind that a paying customer is having a problem with a feature they offer...


When EQIM first came out I had this exact problem. I had to change what I had as the password and then it worked fine. But you can't change the password back to what it was before.

Kell 07-15-2004 09:08 PM

TEQIM Plugin >>>>> EQIM trash called a client. Even the irc version is lightyears ahead of EQIM stand alone.

Fyste 07-16-2004 01:13 AM

I've been using Trillian for years... and I just downloaded TEQIM today. Only one thing to say...

Wow.

That's LIGHTYEARS beyond EQIM. If SOE wants to get upset about people using it someday... well I'll worry about it then. For right now, this is far and away the best interface I've seen and it works in Trillian... one more clunky window GONE from my desktop!

Thanks!!

:nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: <-- Fyste gives this FIVE dancing nanas!

bdraft 07-18-2004 05:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Sewell
Heya Zone, at this time, EQIM cannot connect to the guild chat because EQIM is connecting to the Channel Server, and not the World Server, so basically it recognises your character, but not guild affiliations. So if you want to talk to your guild, create a "Guild Channel" and have your entire guild join it. Passwording it would be a good idea as well.

If you an unfamiliar with how to do so, here is the format.

/join ChannelName:Password

e.g.

/join EQinterface:8675309


Thank you to Orion for the link, we'll be altering the web page shortly to make it easier to find/download.



I haven't used EQIM in a while. I didn't have any problems talking to people but I had a few anoyances. I had to add people to my buddy list just to talk to them otherwise it would sit there forever doing nothing.
I don't remember connecting to any channels....
I do specificly remember that it would not connect to my guilds serverwide officer's channel. (Some of our officers are active on other servers, this alows the users to go over to the officer channel and talk to an officer if there is any in EQ Land anywhere (the officers are required to auto-join all of their characters.)

I was not able to connect to the serverwide chat channels for like the clerics (/join serverwide.cleric:cleric). It would either give me an error or it would give me nothing....a blank line.

This was back when DX9 was made a requirement, for about 2 or 3 weeks I was working to try to get back into EQ (3 reinstalls of 98SE, several diffrent versions of my graphics driver, EQTech emails, emails to my card vendor.
EQTech basicly told me to bug-off. My ATI Radeon 7000 with 32MB of DDR-RAM wasn't supported so get a new card or stop bugging us....and what are you doing STILL running 98SE??
I never got a human in email a ATI.....

ahwell....
bdraft

Aluvin Goldleaf 07-18-2004 05:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mortis42
I'd like to see a EQIM plugin for Trillian Pro.
I stopped using it because it created to many windows for my liking to use. If it was integrated into Trillian that would be cool.


It already is :) sadly don't have the link anymore, since I lost my favorites on a computer crash :(


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