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11-07-2002, 12:14 AM	#16
tadashya Pixel Pusher Join Date: Aug 2002 Server: erollisi marr Posts: 373	photoshop 7 is definately prime choice for pic editing __________________ Original Artwork by Tadashya my current favorite sig slice

11-07-2002, 01:28 AM	#17
Kudane Co-Founder Join Date: Jul 2002 Server: Xegony Posts: 2,145	Cair, I have done TGAs with 5 and 6... its not the transparancy of the layer that needs to be fixed.. its ALPHA channel In this image you can see the frame that Xym uses for the compass Now if you switch from layers to alpha as in this picture You will see Alpha 1 channel, in this picture i have enable it only Now on this channel ONLY stuff in while will show through, soo for this example i have erased the left and right filagry ONLY on the alpha channel Now, if you turn the RGB Channels Back on WITH the Alpha Channel Like this picture You will see both the full color image, and a "red" mask that is the alpha 1 channel, notice how the filagry is still there on the color image but the alpha channel has it erased. Save the file as a TGA File, 32-bit, (no transparent Background you notice above) when you load it in game this is what you would see TA DA!!! Soooo dont worry about that background.. it can be black, white, or any color.. Transparency is determined on the alpha channel.. 100% black NOTHING Shows. 100% white Whole thing shows.. 50% black (grey) and you get semi transparency hope this helps Kudane

11-11-2002, 12:20 AM

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I am sorry the above instructions are for Photoshop not Paintshop (both PS abriviations)

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11-11-2002, 12:24 AM	#19
*Cairenn* Credendo Vides Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,866	Hugs Kudane Nothing to apologize for, an attempt to help is never anything to be sorry about. Besides which, even though it's not for the same program, the instructions still help explain some of the stuff I (and likely others) were having problems figuring out. Thanks Kudz __________________ "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world." Co-Founder & Admin: MMOUI FaceBook Profile, Page, Group Avatar Image by RafM

12-09-2002, 11:09 AM	#20
*Cairenn* Credendo Vides Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,866	dances around, chanting "I did it I did it I did it! Yay I did it Wheee! I got it to work! I did it!"

12-09-2002, 11:31 AM	#21
Kudane Co-Founder Join Date: Jul 2002 Server: Xegony Posts: 2,145	I have gotten photoshop 7 now. and it now uses transparant layers instead of alpha channel.. sooo the above instr, are for 5 or 6 for sure..

12-09-2002, 11:36 AM	#22
Lanys.Neoconker A Shissar Defiler Join Date: Sep 2002 Server: Lanys T'Vyl Posts: 162	Hey Guys, I been reading around at school (finished my test early), and this information is great! The only thing I'd like to say is, why don't you guys get Photoshop 7? (Removed Warez Info) And be ready for a new mod, I'll be getting one out soon. Edit: Sorry to remove Warez info and S/N info, but we can support such activities on a public board. However what you tell people in Private Messages they send you, we can not control. (hopefully you see where I am going with this) - Kudane __________________ <Savage Circle> One Mind. Any Weapon. - Hunter B. Armstrong Say NO to overly-broad EULAs. Your computer is YOURS and so is the content on it. If you do not protect and defend your own privacy then expect it to be violated. (Courtesy of Garryck) Last edited by Kudane : 12-09-2002 at 12:24 PM.

12-09-2002, 03:48 PM	#23
jobeken A Shissar Disciple Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 113	Yet again I post for your image editing needs... http://www.gimp.org It has almost every feature of Photoshop, is easy to use, works flawlessly with images of every type it supports and can read from and write to photoshop AND paint shop pro files.... The best part beyond that is that it is 100% and completely FREE and can be used on UNIX & Windows.... http://www.gimp.org - main website http://www.wingimp.org - windows version http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/ - alternate download site with plug-ins and stuff all ready to go... Enjoy it FREEly... __________________ Jobeken Xoner

01-24-2003, 02:16 PM	#24
wbbuch A Hill Giant Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 39	A little confused Ok - color me confused, or maybe just an idiot... I'm still unclear about one thing. Is the Alpha Channel where you put the graphics that you WANT to see, or is it for the areas that should be Transparent? In other words... say I'm doing a simlpe .gif file with transparency. I usually use a Hot Pink color to be my transparent color. Any background areas that I want to disappear in the final viewing of the .gif I make them Hot Pink, define that as the transparent color, and presto - gone. Now - thinking along the lines of a .tga file with an Alpha Channel. If I want those same Hot Pink areas to "disappear" do I put the HOT PINK stuff on the Alhpa Channel, or do I put my picture on the Alpha Channel? Sorry to be such a stooge - I'm one of those folks that learns much better if someone Shows me as opposed to reading instructions - so readiing you advise here I tend to catch on a bit slower. Anyone wanna come to my house and give me PSP 6 Lessons?

01-24-2003, 02:27 PM	#25
Talyns The Tablets Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Server: Lanys Posts: 520	The pink color (<R>255 <G>0 <B>255) is ignored by Everquests UI Drawing routines... If you use that method you don't have to worry about the alpha channel.. Just make sure there isn't one.. If you want to use the alpha channel method.. Rolleo explained pretty simple way in this thread about 4 post down: http://www.eqgui.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4717 edit: changed "Direct3d" to "Everquests UI Drawing routines" before I get a programmer telling me I'm wrong __________________ Talyns Lanys Characters: -Acarrion (51 BST) -Hawkren (20 SHM) Last edited by Talyns : 01-24-2003 at 05:07 PM.

02-11-2003, 11:33 AM	#26
Curumtiny A Shissar Defiler Join Date: Aug 2002 Server: Tarew Marr Posts: 185	So Cairenn, What program did you finaly go with? Was it the Trial version? I am thinking of trying to download and try these things out. If you have any links of where I may download one of these programs I would appreciate it.. __________________ Curumtiny Call Me Yoda Gnome Warrior (GnomeLord) Level 65 Tarrew Marr Guild Officer: Invictus Verite Click on Signiture for Magelo Profile

02-11-2003, 11:53 AM	#27
*Cairenn* Credendo Vides Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,866	I played around with the trial program, aye. Having been using PSP5, switching to the trial PSP7 was easy for me.

02-11-2003, 12:42 PM

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Drakah

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Kudane...

Quote:

Originally posted by Kudane
I have gotten photoshop 7 now. and it now uses transparant layers instead of alpha channel..

sooo the above instr, are for 5 or 6 for sure..

Photoshop7 does use Alpha channel as the previous version did. You have to download the patch though in order to get that feature to work. You can download it at adobe.com.

03-13-2003, 07:40 PM	#29
Celolith A Gray Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8	PS7 and TGA files I dont know if i would call that a patch.. Targa files shouldnt really have an alpha channel per the Targa specs thus PhotoShop 7 conformed to the correct usage of Targa files

03-14-2003, 01:00 PM	#30
Kungpo A Snow Cougar Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 41	I too am using Gimp for windows ...making my own transparencies is not problem ... but when editing someone else's work ...i find it easier for me to add aplpha channel and send alpha to selector ..and using selector to cut out the pieices arounf the image i want transparent =) ...i did find an easier way ...but cant remember what i did to do it =P ....some how on one image i inverted the selector to go around the image and cutted out the background to make it transparent ... Sure gimp has a guide how to do this probably ..i just been to lazy to read the docs or the tool tips =P