Sthikik

I'm a shammy... but I'd rather group... and even though I can, have have soloed for most of a couple of levels, I'd still rather group... nothing like watching a Tank go into Veg-O-Matic Mode, or the Wizzie Nuke for 4-8K crits, the cleric yanking the over anxious rogue from the brink of Bertellox's grip, of the Paladin and SK stealing Aggro like candy from a Baby from me after I land a slow that puts the Chanter to shame.. or that same chanter Dire Charming a Giant or other nasty and turning the tables and mezzing the hapless mob to keep it here while we deal with the bigger badder ones first. and on the rare chance that a group is about to wipe the Druid getting us out of Dodge while the pets hold off the baddies... and afterwards the Magician CoTH everyone back to camp

just my .02 since it is a MMORPG geared now more than ever towards group play with the 80% only splittable by 5 even when there is 6 players in a group :P

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Quantic

Sorry, I have to respond. Read all the posts, and some are well written bull****. Yes, bull****.

Someone mentioned PoF soloing as a druid around the birds. Cool, grats! Just an FYI, that isn't the only place to solo in PoF. At the picnic benches, I can solo 12 on a cycle with only self buffs. I have yet to see any other class solo with self buffs more than 6 on a cycle. Hell, I have yet to see a druid do more than 5 per cycle. OK, PoF is situational. Let's move to HoH. How many per cycle there? PoN? Luclin? Velious? The list goes on.

Take a 51 necro, and a 51 druid. Play the same amount of time on each just soloing mobs and see who reaches 60 1st.

That should settle the exp argument.

Moving onto Lich vs Kei. Lich hands down is better than Kei. It has faster mana regen, and sure you need to lifetap dot which costs some mana, but it also dmgs the opponent as well, so it works out fine in the long run doesn't it. See above for exp gain per cycle. If you think differently, reroll your character now please.

Farming. How many druids solo farm in Veksar? In Sebilis? Nadox? Let's see......what other serious cash camps are there? How about pure solo feats? Has a druid ever soloed Phinny? Venril Sathir? Lodizal? Any other serious named mobs that a Necro may not? I am just asking here, I don't really know, so I won't hammer this point. I can guarantee you that a Necro is more versatile for soloing than a Druid.

Any other points?

Haliken

Just a few points Quantic seeing as I sit next to a 65 druid all day long.

Druids own Nadox. Charmed exhausted bloodtusk ripped that zone apart. Druids can solo Lodizal, so can rangers. That's it.

I don't wanna read this thread or get involved, I just saw what Quantic posted at a glance and wanted to toss out a couple fast corrects.

Enok

Kebkeck

taking nothing away from your post, because its all true, albeit a tiny bit skewed :P Necro's don't get track, so hitting a list of targets is a bit harder for necros than it is fro druids. That was my only point about Farming and Druids, they have track and we have FD

Quantic

You don't need track to hit targets.....sure it helps, but you aren't dependant upon it.

Hal - I didn't know if they soloed Lodi or not, i was just asking. What about VS, Phinny, etc etc. The list goes on and on.

grottel

Just another rant of - "its my opinion and you're entitled to it or else" post.
I sure hope that a necro doesn't renamiate this dead horse topic =P. You may as well argue about who's favorite color is the best one. <no responses/flames needed cause I'm not coming back to this thread>.

sephirothc

I beleive that there is one type of kitting that you are leaving out that druids rely on and necros can not attempt. This would be quad or octa kitting which is by far one of the fastest, mana efficient ways to solo. lets face it necros solo great but not as good as a quading druid.

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Menthoshpi

Oo



Care to tell me wut octa kiting is??





O really? Mhmm i see take a look at this

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=21159

Yes u see as people where saying =/ druids can get thier hp higher then nerc's. Hell iv seen a druid with 7k hp and max iv seen a necro is a laughable 4k

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Sthikik

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Menthoshpi
[B]Oo



Care to tell me wut octa kiting is??



kiting 8 I would presume

Adir

Before you get too proud, I'd suggest you look at the following profile and then compare it to the profile you linked.

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=62873

If you want reassurance that this isn't an isolated case, I might suggest you take a look at EQRankings.

Oddly, of all the necro and druid profiles listed, the one individual with the most hp is...the necro. A tad surprising as I was under the impression that druids got more hp per point of stamina than necros; but then it isn't terribly hard to get that many hp, and that much mana, when you're nicely decked-out in elemental/time gear.

And, no, that isn't my profile.

Comparing necros and druids is like comparing apples and oranges, just like comparing all classes pre and post elemental planes. Really serves no purpose. In any case, both solo quite well, but in different fashions.

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Azrael

I read every word of all the discussions comparing the soloing pluses and minuses of several classes. Alot of the arguments were very well stated, some were defensive to the point of being pissed off and some were basically written by people who have been soloing way tooooooo long. But my point....

I have a high level Necro and Druid. I also have a high level Wizard and a high 40 Paladin. ( THE POINT PLEASE ? )

I am sick and tired of soloing ! Who cares which solos best. Its still freakin lonely, pull, kite, kill...pull, kite, kill.

I would so much rather surround myself with old friends, new friends, soon to be freinds and get killed to the last man as try and solo another MoB. For me LDoN is a total Tunare/Cazic-Thule send. NO MORE FREAKIN LONELY, BORING KITING.

But....the Necro solos better than the Druid. But, is it soloing when I have a pet? Hmmm.

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Azuth

/Agree Azrael. I'm not much for soloing. As a mage the only time I solo is when I attempt to farm guards in HK. Usually it ends up with me on the cliff wall camping Boshinko tho. I don't solo much because I don't like being by myself for hours on end. That's why you can see me in BB most time /shouting for a LDoN group.

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Darvek

OK, from a Necro point of view...

It was mentioned that you cannot control a feared Mob, Sure ya can, if you face the mob (face to face) you can "steer" the mob where ya want. On the other hand fear works up to lvl 55 (trepidation). Try and fear kite something in PoN, it dosent work unfortunatly... Everyone Kites the same there. Nother thing we have over Druids is our mana regen. Our Lich lines of spells are by far the best IMO, except for maybe that Shammy AA. Druids and Necro's are alot of the same and yet different. We cn manage our mana more efficiently and damage our enemies, while we heal ourselves. Those are my basic Differences, although FD is nice , of course I would like to have SOW memmed on my Bar as well =) Druids and Necro's group extremely well together. It all boils down to how well you play your class, and whatyour play style is.


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sephirothc

Just to answer the questions on what octa kiting is- it is when you kite 8 mobs at once. You still can only hit four at once but when you gather all eight together it is faster because as soon as you get the first quad down you already have the other four rounded up.

Sephirothc
62nd Druid of Tunare